Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed-west.nntpserver.com!hub1.meganetnews.com!nntpserver.com!news-west.rr.com!cyclone.kc.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!twister.columbus.rr.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Matanya Ophee <[email protected]> Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar Subject: Re: Bach Lute Suite #4 Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 56 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:40:00 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.26.140.8 X-Complaints-To: [email protected] X-Trace: twister.columbus.rr.com 1045694400 24.26.140.8 (Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:40:00 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:40:00 EST Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online -- Columbus [email protected] (William D Clinger) wrote: >> The question was posed by the poster. He asks What's up with that? >> >> Why don't you tell him? > >It isn't so hard to explain. Parkening's recording is in F major, >one-half step above the E major of his arrangement. The published >version of Parkening's arrangement suggests the use of a capo on >the first fret, and Sharon has told us that Parkening did this. I guess you are going to draw me into this, no matter what. ... >Another possibility, which Matanya has championed, is that the >recording was done in E major but played back at a faster speed >to sound in F major. Matanya, in his ignorance of the relevant >arithmetic, believed that this would account for Parkening being >able to play the piece in 3:35 when most other guitarists play >it in 4:30 or more. Well, since I flunked math in the 8th grade, I would accept that my arithmetic is not correct. What, then, is the correct arithmetic? As far as I know, and this is what I was told by Stefan Kudelski, the inventor of the Nagra tape recorder when I worked as Sales Manager for the company back in the early 60s, is that a difference in tape speed of 6% produces exactly a rise in one semitone. Do calculate for me, please, what is the difference in percentage between 3.35 and 4.30. Sharon presented back then some opinions of the people who were directly involved in the production of the CP recording who swear that there were no engineering whizzbang alterations in tape speed and what we hear, in F Major, is what CP played. So far so good. What was never explained adequately is another recording by CP of the same piece, this time with an orchestral accompaniment based on the Sinfonia from the Ratswahl kantata (No. 29) originally written by Bach in D Major, and here transposed to E Major. (A Bach Celebration EMI 4DS-37343 cassette tape). _This_ recording does sound in E Major and takes more than 5 minutes. So what happened here? CP slowed his playing because the _conductor_ told him to? What I find extremely interesting, is that there is a picture of CP on the cassette packaging which clearly shows him with a capo on the first fret. How he managed to play in E Major with a capo on the first fret is something we can only speculate on. Matanya Ophee Editions Orphe'e, Inc., 1240 Clubview Blvd. N. Columbus, OH 43235-1226 614-846-9517 fax: 614-846-9794 http://www.orphee.com